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Module #10 Discussion #2
After completing the Anticipation Guide for Module 10, post a response to the topics presented on the guide. Why did you answer the way you did? What was your thinking about the topics presented? Do you think your responses will change after reading Macbeth, and why?
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11/3/2013 11:08:59 am
Well all of the topics relate to the issues presented in Macbeth. It is unfair because I have read Macbeth before so I know what it is about and so my answers will not change and if they do only one or two will change because I read it 2 years ago. The one question about power corrupting people is very true because the more control you have to more you want. When you want something you do whatever it takes to get it. The road to hell is not paved with good intentions because if your heart is good you will go to heaven. If you are doing bad things on purpose then you will go to hell.
11/3/2013 01:15:45 pm
Considering the plot of Macbeth one definitley makes their own destiny. Lady Macbeth and Macbeth decide to commit murder to gain position so that they can rule. This destroys their souls and any chance they had in heaven. The only thing that can happen for them is misfourtune.No matter what the opinion of the population is, killing is never justified. I believe that even someone who kills deserves to live. They are still God's child but more that that,they should live with the guilt rather than get to die. To be haunted by guilt the way Lady Macbeth is,I feel, would be a worse fate than death.
11/5/2013 04:03:49 am
The topics that were presented in the anticipation guide were very opinionated. I feel as though that what was presented in the guide will be very hard to change because of the way a tragedy is written or not written. I am a firm believer that family is the most important thing in the world. Whether they are blood or your best friends, family is family and they are there for you no matter what. I also strongly believe that every action that a person makes is what ultimately decides their fate. There is no other way of putting it. Also, the road to hell is not paved with good intentions. It is in fact a path of bad things that one person does over and over. There is no reasoning to believe that a person who goes to hell would have good intentions. They will always be bad. Another topic brought up in this anticipation guide is the role of government. Most governments in the world are corrupt in my opinion and very few should actually be listened to and taken seriously. The United States not being one of those very few. As far as an anarchy goes, I do not believe that those would ever work. Every system needs some sort of rules and a leader in order to make things at least work. As stated before, I really do not believe that my opinions will change after reading Macbeth purely based on the fact that it has no actual value in the world as far as facts go.
11/7/2013 01:33:53 pm
"I am a firm believer that family is the most important thing in the world. Whether they are blood or your best friends, family is family and they are there for you no matter what."
11/8/2013 07:54:37 am
This may be a little off topic... I recently watched "The Heat" with Melissa McCarthy and Sandra Bullock. It is revealed that McCarthy's character put her brother in jail. After doing so, her family hated her. As for her brother, he understood that she did it for his own good (he was dealing with drugs). So, even in difficult situations, your family can be there. I think it just may be seen from different perspectives.
11/8/2013 06:37:31 am
I also do not agree with when you said family is there for you no matter what because not everyone has had that same experience. For many people, their parents leave them for days at a time without warning or explanation. Some families do not even speak with each other. I disagree with "they will always be bad" as well because people CAN change. I will serve as an example to that. During freshman and sophomore year, I did things that I never should have, and I really screwed up my life. I made a lot of bad decisions, but now I am on the right track. Even though I was "bad" before I have changed and become a pretty great student.
11/5/2013 06:08:07 am
I think that the topics presented in the Anticipation Guide were as Steven said, very opinionated. I believe that my opinions towards each statement were logical so therefore I am not sure that reading the story Macbeth will change my answers. I definitely do not agree with the statement that says true love has no ambition because love always requires dedication and hard work. If there is any problems in the relationship how would they be solved? True love requires ambition. Also, killing one another is never the right thing to, there is always some other way around that. So righteous and unrighteous killing is not a matter of popular opinion. As Cristina said, the road to hell is definitely not paved with good intentions because a persons actions will send them to hell. If someone has a good heart why would they be sent to hell? I am a strong believer in someone makes their own destiny. Everyone comes along difficult decisions in their lifetimes however that person chooses the decision he/she wants to make. The choices people make in their lives is what creates their own personal destiny. Another thing I disagree with is the statement where it says if you reach your goal, the end always justifies the means. I disagree with this because some people work hard to reach a goal but don't make it, others barely work for it at all and they do reach their goal. Just because you reach the goal you wanted does not mean you reached in the way intended.
11/5/2013 08:26:19 am
While doing the Anticipation Guide, I answered as honestly as I could. I haven't read MacBeth before, but these topics seem to touch upon topics of other books I have read. Choosing between family and government is a little difficult to answer, because, had the situation been provided, it would, for me, change the answer. Government is not always correct and just, and family is not always a benevolent, nurturing entity everyone has come to think of it as. I wouldn't hold my family in high regard solely based off of the principles of honor and respect; if my family was mentally or physically abusive, I would avoid them at all costs. Likewise, I wouldn't glorify my country's government because it's patriotic; if the country's government is corrupt, I wouldn't support it. The statement in the Anticipation Guide, understandably, didn't delve into specifics. I don't which of the cases pertain to MacBeth, but it would be an important part of my decision making process.
11/5/2013 10:15:52 am
The one topic that stood out to me was "You are the maker of your own destiny." I did not agree with this statement and answered no. I believe more in "Everything happens for a reason." All of the topics presented could result in a very opinionated and controversial discussion if we were to discuss this in class. I believe some of my answers may change after reading Macbeth because some of these topics, again, are so controversial. An example is "True love has no ambition." This topic is obviously going to come about when reading Macbeth because it is a story by Shakespeare. Shakespeare is known to write dramas involving love.
11/5/2013 12:45:05 pm
I agree that everything happens for a reason but that doesnt mean that you can not make your own destiny. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Lets say that,for example, I don not care about school and so I do not regularly attend class, study for test or do homework. I will fail the class along with my other classes assuming I do the same for them. This will make it harder for me to attend college and If by some miracle a college accepts me,it is likley that I will be the same in college. So now that it is impossible for me to have a successful career based on my lack of schooling, I will be stuck in a crappy job with minimum wage at least. This will make it hard for me to have good living standards and I will not be very happy. All of this would happen because I did not bother to try in school. I could have easily changed that and the situation I just described would not have happened and my destiny would be different.
11/7/2013 05:04:43 am
I really liked how you pointed out that you don't believe the statement "you are the maker of your own destiny." Although I strongly believe that a person is the own maker of their destiny, I never thought of it the way that you did. I agree with you when you say that everything does happen for a reason; however, as Cristina said in her reply people make their own decisions in life which results in creating their own personal destiny.
11/8/2013 05:24:06 am
I said yes to the statement, "you are the maker of your own destiny", because I believe only you can determine where you go in life based on your decisions and actions. The quote,"everything happens for a reason" to me means more so that you learn from your mistakes not that your mistakes are supposed to happen. I could never really believe that your future is already planned out for you. I believe people's characters change throughout their lives and their destiny is completely unpredictable.
11/8/2013 06:15:21 am
I am going to strongly disagree with what you are saying as far as we do not create our own destiny. Everyday people make decisions that influence the rest of our life. People may be presented with multiple situations that are led to them through "fate," but in actuality a person makes the decision for themselves. After all of that being said, I don't see how a drama written by Shakespeare 400 years ago would influence you in one way or the other and if it does, I'm sorry.
11/8/2013 02:12:36 pm
I really liked how you included the actual questions in your response and stated what and how you answered each one of them. It really allowed me to see your train of thought and try to understand why you answered the questions the way you did. I also enjoyed the fact that I answered differently in some of the questions; however, reading your reasoning to each of the questions, allowed me to reconsider my answers because you did make a lot of valid points.
11/5/2013 10:27:08 am
My opinions of whether or not I agree with each statement in the Anticipation Guide are for the most part very strong and I believe even after reading MacBeth that they will stay the same. I disagree with the statement,"loyalty to family supercedes loyalty to government" and agree with the statement, "commitment to principle supercedes loyalty to family." I do not completely disagree and agree to these statements because I do believe that family is a very important thing, however; in some cases one may have to break away from their families if they strongly believe that the principles of what they are doing is better than their family's values. Another topic presented in the anticipation guide is being the maker of your own destiny. I completely support this statement because no one else can control your future but yourself. You determine all of the obstacles that may get in the way and how you handle each and every situation. One thing I disagree with is that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I disagreed with this because one who goes to hell does not have good intentions throughout the way. My thinking about the topics presented are as Steven said, that they are very opinionated and they also don't leave much room for other examples. Things don't always occur exactly as these statements are presented and there could be many other situations that differ.
11/6/2013 08:37:38 am
I found the topics on the guide to be quite intriguing. They are mainly about hard decisions and ethical dilemmas. I tried to answer keeping my best morals in mind, and therefore selected the options that seemed least detrimental to other people and the environment around me. I tend to put others before myself, so it is no surprise that I would have selected the answers I did. I do not think my answers will change very much after reading Macbeth. I am known to be thickheaded and stubborn, so I am normally pretty set in my beliefs. If the material is extremely impressionable, though, I might see a change in a few of my answers.
11/8/2013 07:49:42 am
To be honest, I did not know what some of the topic were saying. So I kind of interpreted them in my own way. That is why I said that my answer or opinion on the topics could change after reading Macbeth. I agree that the topics were quite intriguing. I did not answer them with morals in mind. I answered them to what I thought it meant. It is interesting that you answered according to what was the least detrimental to other people and the environment around you.
11/8/2013 11:52:12 pm
I agree with you that the questions were mainly about hard decisions and ethical dilemmas. They all made me think twice about how I answered them. But I think after reading Macbeth, maybe some of your answers to the questions will change. You must keep an open mind, not only with this but in life. You never know when something can change you for the better and you have to be willing to accept those changes. I am stubborn as well, but lately I have been learning to accept that everything happens for a reason and that maybe it is time to take a good hard look at my life and change some things around in order to ensure a bright and happy future ahead of me.
11/8/2013 02:04:33 pm
I thought most of the questions required me to second guess myself. Most of them were hard to answer with a simple yes or no. I often found myself wanting to not only change my answer, but also constantly explain why I answered the way I did. When trying to answer a any question, a person will most likely want to answer the question as right as they can be or follow what the social norm would be. With these questions, answering yes or no had its pros and cons for each of them. I definitely think that I tried to answer the questions not necessarily the most honest; but instead, the way society's expectations would want me to answer it. I think after reading MacBeth my views on most, if not all of the questions will change. I say this because Shakespeare has a tendency of changing my opinions about life often.
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